European Moslems aim for Laws agains Defamation of Religions
At a conference in Vienna in Austria which is currently under way, European Moslems urged Europe to enact laws to ban defamation of religions. In a statement to Islamonline.net, Turfa Bagaghati, deputy chairman of the European Network Against Racism (ENAR) said: “It is high time now that Muslims in Europe pressed for their rights like enacting laws banning aggression on Islam and enhancing Islamic education”.
Benita Ferrero-Waldner, the European Commissioner for External Relations presented a luke-warm response to these demands from European Moslems, saying: “Freedom of religion is non-negotiable. It is a fundamental right of individuals and communities and entails respect for the integrity of all religious convictions and all ways in which they are exercised. Similarly, freedom of expression is central to Europe’s values and traditions. It is also non-negotiable. But it does come with responsibilities and should be exercised with the necessary sensitivity to others.”
According to Jyllands-Posten today, Amar Hariba of the World Islamic Call Society said: “The insult of prophets in the name of Freedom of Speech is a crime which cannot be ignored. We therefore ask the European Union to adopt laws to prohibit that kind of insults.”
To this blog, it seems clear that the European commissioner has chosen sides: For Religion and against Freedom of Speech. By qualifying Freedom of Expression and not Freedom of Religion, she has once again said to the world that Europe at large has no special interest in defending Freedom of Speech.
The delegate from Denmark was Imam Abdul Wahid Petersen who has declared himself in favor of making Sharia the law of the land.
The conference is expected to agree on a statement that will be issued today.
Related links:
Description of the Conference from April 3rd
I have read this in Jyllandsposten:
“” Lykkes det ikke at nå til enighed, og skaffes der ved en afstemning flertal for de muslimske landes udspil, er Unesco forpligtet til at følge beslutningen og udarbejde en international konvention, som dog ikke vil have virkning for de lande, der ikke underskriver den.”"
So I still hope that there are countries that will NOT sign this convention.
JP’s article: http://www.jp.dk/indland/artikel:aid=3667202/
But after reading the article you have linked above:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2006-04/08/article06.shtml
I do fear the worst case …
Or could anyone give me some hope ?
Comment by sveitserosten — April 9, 2006 @ 2:36 pm
I agree. The slippery slope has just been encountered with Europe already struggling to maintain its footing. Europe should be kicking the Islamists head first down that same slope, instead of preparing themselves to bow before their Islamist masters.
Islamist Hegemony 1
Liberal Dem. Europe 0
Comment by KGS59 — April 9, 2006 @ 3:05 pm
Let’s have laws to outlaw Islam. It advocates racism. Dhimmis have fewer rights than believers, polygamy is ok, but polyandry is not.
Comment by Luke — April 9, 2006 @ 5:20 pm
‘ANTI-MUSLIM BIAS TOO HIGH’ - VIENNA CONFERENCE
The head of the EU’s racism observatory on Saturday, April 8, told the second conference of European imams, bringing together 300 leaders, imams and female preachers from 35 countries, that anti-Muslim bias is dangerously high in Europe. Full art…
Trackback by The Nordish Portal — April 10, 2006 @ 7:13 pm
Nuking Mecca sound better eveyday does it not?
Comment by HELLPIG — April 11, 2006 @ 12:09 am
This attempt to harness the laws of free speech must, once again, be defended. The Islamists will keep coming at us and we must remain vigilant.
Comment by foreign devil — April 11, 2006 @ 1:31 pm
Here are some good news - from Jyllands Posten:
Moslem countries give up
(…)
I am translating right now the text, but here in short the result of this
meeting in Paris:
‘The word ‘resposibility’ has been given up, because the next question would be: responsible towards whom?
At the same time the moslem organisation OIC gave up its claim (or: ‘demand’ in english) to push a konvention which should protect all religions from freedom of speech while demanding for sanctions (= punishment) towards respectlessness.
(sorry - bad english)
Original text here:
http://www.jp.dk/indland/artikel:aid=3673894/
Comment by sveitserosten — April 12, 2006 @ 3:20 pm
On a Lighter Note
“It is high time now that Muslims in Europe pressed for their rights like enacting laws banning aggression on Islam and enhancing Islamic education”. Agora’s covering an interesting convention. It would appear to be a “Shriners Free” affair, jud…
Trackback by The Coalition of the Swilling — April 13, 2006 @ 3:30 pm
sveitserosten:
Thank you for that translation. It IS good news. But remain vigilant anyway. They have a tendency to say one thing for public consumption and then say something else to each other. As for your English–it’s excellent. Many thanks for that news. If it’s not a ruse and it true, maybe they’re finally realizing we won’t quit either.
Comment by foreign devil — April 14, 2006 @ 1:46 pm
unless my followers decide to behave themselves i shall have to convert to infidelism… i wish they would just do what i say in my most official website … http://www.prophetmohammed.co.uk
Comment by prophet mohammed (pbum) — April 15, 2006 @ 4:15 pm
I have found an article in an italien newspaper that has nothing to do with Danish politics but is a statement from Rome.
It is a critical analysis made by a (gesuita = ) Jesuit priest (maybe ‘monk’ is better).
I post the link here as a ‘positive news’ because I think we need that. The article was published already one week ago, now also available in english here:
www.chiesa.espressonline.it/dettaglio.jsp?id=48741&eng=y
Comment by sveitserosten — April 16, 2006 @ 9:13 pm
Next news also from Italy:
The text only in german but I can translate the short text:
“The murderer of the catholic priest Andrea Santoro in Turkia should go to prison for 26 years and 8 month. The 16 year old turkish confessed to have shot the priest in the church of Trabazon on february 5. An eye-witness said she had seen the 16 years old shouting ‘ Allahu Akbar’ (Allah is great) bevore shooting the priest. The authorities think it is a murderer motivated by the islamic faith.”
The original article can be found here:
www.oecumene.radiovaticana.org/ted/Articolo.asp?c=74649
Comment by sveitserosten — April 16, 2006 @ 9:33 pm
The essay from the vatican to which you refer at the link you gave is called “The Islamic Question” and begins halfway down the page.
http://www.chiesa.espressonline.it/dettaglio.jsp?id=48741&eng=y
It’s an excellent read and both authors are admirers of Orianna Fallaci, as is the new Pope.
Comment by foreign devil — April 16, 2006 @ 11:09 pm
The Crazy Cartoonist’s Last Work
(Tak til Rackham)HT: NO PASARÁN.I’m going to link one of Agora’s posts:. It’s from some …
Trackback by The Anti-Jihad Pundit — April 20, 2006 @ 6:45 pm
Agora, I hope you are on vacation and will return. I’ve missed your posts the last couple of weeks. Everything okay?
Comment by beth — April 23, 2006 @ 8:19 pm
indefinite leave. When something comes up, perhaps I will post about it.
Comment by Administrator — April 24, 2006 @ 11:44 pm
Agora is a very good blog, so we’ll be pleased if you can resume posting some day, but in the meantime enjoy your vacation.
Comment by pst314 — April 25, 2006 @ 1:06 pm
COMEDY CENTRAL SOUTH PARK WIMP OUT AND TRY TO COVER
Go to the video lonks of the 2 shows on Mohammed and the show on Scientology. Although Comedy Cnetral wimped out and didn’t show the image of Mohammed they still aggressively and succesfully mock the controversy in the show.
The show on Scientology is so funny you’ll piss your pants.
Regards….
Mike
Comment by Mike Nargizian — April 26, 2006 @ 9:09 am
“indefinite leave. When something comes up, perhaps I will post about it.”
While I miss your posts, wouldn’t it be nice if nothing came up
Comment by beth — May 2, 2006 @ 2:16 am
Why be tolerant towards the intolerant?
www.safiaaoude.blogspot.com
A radical muslim in denmark, that makes it harder for ordinary muslims to just live a regular life…
Comment by CT — June 14, 2006 @ 9:01 am
Is this true?
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/69036BFC-BA8E-462A-9565-24D1998365AF.htm
What is his or her name?
Comment by Miep — September 4, 2006 @ 3:33 pm
Unfortunately, yes. His name is Frank Aaen, a member of the moonbat Unity List, the successor to the Danish Communist Party, the Communist Workers’ Party and a bunch of other moonbat nut-case parties. His request was denied. For more info, see:
http://exile-onthewing.blogspot.com/2006/08/learned-idiot-to-left-of-me_29.html
Unity List
Regards,
Agora
Comment by Administrator — September 4, 2006 @ 3:52 pm
First, a point to the administrator: you should (or rather should have long ago) delete the comments about outlawing Islam and nuking Mecca.
Now, for the news itself: the enforcemnt mechanisms for any such law would be by suing (civil law), except in extreme cases where other laws were probably broken too. Obviously, were every instance of an infraction of the proposed “disrespect to religion” laws to be sued, there would be two results (1) the courts would be clogged and (2) the citizenry would want the law revoked on account of preposterous suits being filed, and the increases in tensions with the Islamic communities it would doubtless contribute to. But, having said this, over time, things would eventually balance out: some disrespect would be disallowed either by law (if not revoked but only weakened), or by custom. So the question boils down to: would (or should) the citizenry accept such a weak restriction on their speech? That is their responsibilty to decide. But to stupidly insult - as opposed to incisively jab - anything, a religion, a theory, or a party, is not something really worth protecting, is it?
Comment by ADAM — October 20, 2006 @ 1:12 pm
dear friends,
i added you to my blogroll…
all the best
holger danske
http://europenews.blogg.de
europenews@web.de
Comment by holger danske — January 14, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
A follow-up to the cartoons issue:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E733C279-7477-4B33-AFD7-3F4E2911BF39.htm
Comment by Miep — February 7, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
Here in America, we struck the appropriate balance a couple of centuries ago:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
–Amendment 1, Constitution of the United States of America.
This issue must be clarified. Islam is a religion, NOT a race. (IMO, the fact that Islam welcomes people of all races is one of the few positive aspects of Islam.) Islam may be a lot of things, but it is not and cannot be racist. Similarly, criticism of Islam is not and cannot be racist.
This is not a complicated concept, yet the world is full of well-educated people who don’t seem to grasp it.
Comment by redfern8 — April 9, 2007 @ 3:32 pm