Danish Imam Ahmed Akkari: Kill Naser Khader
Note: This first part is just a summary of the article attached to this post. When updates come in, I plan to add them and link to the original articles. The original article is nice to have for reference.
Imam Ahmed Akkari has issued death threats against Naser Khader of the Social Liberals. Naser Khader founded the organisation “Democratic Moslems” in February, as an organisation for moderate, Democracy-minded Moslems to join. See this article for biography and background on the enmity between Naser Khader and the Imams in Denmark.
Today Jyllands-Posten reports that Imam Ahmed Akkari was recorded on a hidden camera by journalist Mohamed Sifaoui of the French TV-Station France 2 which will show a documentary tonight detailing the doings of the Danish Imams. The documentary also reveals that the Danish Imams have been using the affair as a lever to go against their political opponents in Denmark.
Ahmed Akkari is quoted as saying:
If [Naser Khader] becomes the Minister of Foreigners or Integration, why don’t we send out two guys to blow up him and his ministry?
The Danish reaction to this has been consternation and revulsion.
Peter Skaarup of the Danish People’s Party:
It’s pure threats and it only goes to show how crazy these Imams have been acting. I will at once ask the Minister what punishment can be given for making such statements and whether it is a punishable offense,
Jens Rohde of the Liberals:
This is certainly very disturbing and it shows what we’re up against. That’s also why I am worried about what is happening at that conference in Bahrain which Ahmed Akkari is a delegate to
Ahmed Akkari denies:
I’ve never said anything like that about Naser Khader, but they are welcome to try and prove it
UPDATE 1
Politiken reports that Elsebeth Gerner Nielsen of the Social Liberals has reported Imam Ahmed Akkari to the police:
The police must investigate whether the French documentary checks out and whether things are as Jyllands-Posten says. If they are, that statement deserves the harshest condemnations.
[…]
I feel very sorry for my colleague and his family . It’s absolutely horrible that he has to live with threats of murder and must be guarded by the police.
The police say that an inquiry is under way:
From what we know so far, it is relevant to start an inquiry.
[…]
[whether it is punishable] depends on under what circumstances the statement was made. And whether they create real fear and discomfort. The fact that the threats are now being quoted in the media is also relevant.
The police in Berlingske Tidende:
We’re investigating whether there is grounds for prosecuting him for these threats. We need to find out what kind of documentation the journalists have and we need to talk with the persons involved.
Ahmed Akkari now calls it a “joke”:
If they think I have said that, then I must have been jesting.
[…]
You also need to understand, from the context, that I wasn’t being serious because I usually don’t say stuff like that - not even in jest. But sometimes things happen.
This blog would like to remind Ahmed Akkari of the time he beat a little boy till he bled. Was that just “one of those times”?
UPDATE 2
Naser Khader has recovered enough to give a statement to the news agency Ritzau. Ritzaus reports that he is still shaken by the statement but wants to see the documentary and hear what is said in Arabic before he issues a statement.
But this is in any case still very, very discomforting.
Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen has issued a statement:
I only know of the case from the media. But if things are the way they seem, I find reason to express horror that anyone could seriously consider saying that. It’s quite shocking shocking that an elected Danish politician is threatened like that. I assume the police will investigate what’s what in this case and then I count on them to deal with it.
The Vice President of Democratic Moslems, Fathi el-Abed says:
Words are powerful - we learned that from this crisis. I think it’s childish, shocking and reprehensible that he says something and then takes it back because the public gets wind of it.
This is the latest from the police. Per Larsen, Chief Inspector:
This seems to be serious. If the words that have been reported to have been said were said, this is a case of Threats on a Person’s Life. This needs to be thoroughly investigated.
[…]
With the reservation that we must know how the threats were made, it sounds like we might want to interrogate the people who are on their way home from Bahrain.
UPDATE 3
From the ten o’clock TV2 news programme.
Ahmed Akkari by telephone from Bahrain:
If I said that, I think the cirumstances must have been not very serious and only in jest ehh… and I of course clearly distance myself from any thing of this kind and also assure Naser that it isn’t anything I can vouch for.
Foreign Minister Per Stig Møller:
What I’ve seen from the newspapers doesn’t look very nice at all. And if he was joking, he’s got a very bad sense of humour.
Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen:
I think that, in any case - even if one is only toying with the thought of terrorist attacks against elected representatives - it is a gravely serious matter, which one must distance oneself from to the greatest degree. Apart from that, I assume as a matter of course that the Police will make inquiries into this matter.
Peter Lautrup Larsen, TV2’s Resident Political Expert:
Of course [Ahmed Akkari’s remarks] have been noticed. That the Foreign Minister and the Prime Minister feel that they must comment on this, shows that it is something the politicians view very gravely. Even if Ahmed Akkari says it’s just a joke. As the Foreign Minister said; it’s a very bad joke indeed then.
Peter Lautrup Larsen also says that the Prime Minister said off-camera that it’s funny how it’s seemingly okay to joke about something in one context [Ahmed Akkari’s remarks] and not in another context [the Muhammed Cartoons].
UPDATE 4
Hat tip: Uriasposten
The programme will be sent tonight 8.50 on France 2 in the series of programmes known as Envoye-Special (Trans: Special Correspondents). Link to the introduction to the programme here.
Translated:
Caricatures: Beneath the Anger
A report by Mohammed SifaouiFollowing the publication of the caricatures of the Prophet Muhammed, the Moslem world ignited. Ransacked embassies, flag burnings and confrontations between police force and demonstrators caused the death of thirty people.
Following the violent reactions in many countries, several Danish newspapers spoke about manipulation. That is what a team of Special Correspondents wanted to investigate in Denmark.
At the source of the extensive media coverage in the Arab Muslim world: a group of imams. They’re Danish and it is they who gave international significance to what was at the beginning only a simple matter of the press.
The investigation very quickly will show that these Imams are actually islamists. They use the matter of the caricatures to settle a score with Jyllands-Posten, the newspaper which published the drawings. This daily newspaper on several occasions had criticized the goals and activities of these imams. To ignite the Islamic world, these clerics prepared and disseminated to a wide audience a file with accusations against Denmark which didn’t contain only the famous caricatures of Muhammed. It is this file which was sent with the assistance of certain ambassadors to the Moslem authorities of several Arab countries. The imams admit adding these vulgar photographs and insulting drawings which have no relation to the caricatures.
The journalists of the Envoye-Special gained the confidence of some of these imams. These “clerics” do not hide their views. They regard secular people as “enemies” and try to promote a radical Islam.
A report about Mohammed Sifaoui: Journalist penetrated Islamic extremist groups in Paris
UPDATE 5
Berlingske Tidende have been quick to get their correspondent in Paris on the case and have an interview with Mohamed Sifaoui here. Note that Ahmed Akkari is of Lebanese origins.
Translated the good bits:
Are the quotes by Jyllands-Posten correct?
They are entirely correct(…) He said it in Arabic and I had three different persons translate it. I speak Arabic myself, but to exercise due dilligence, I also had it translated by some Lebanese people to be sure.
Ahmed Akkari denies that he has ever been in a car with Sheikh Raed Hlayhel and a French journalist?
I think that the best answer is that you see him for yourself in the car with me filming him with a hidden camera.
In your opinion, was he serious when he said he would blow up Naser Khader?
I don’t know.
Did you ask if he was serious?
I didn’t ask. I didn’t even react. I was there as an observer, I didn’t want to react. I looked out the window while filming and pretended not to follow their conversation. I didn’t want to interrupt their conversation. Since they were talking, I was filming.
It was Akkari and Hlayhel who were talking?
Yes, I pretended not to be there. I didn’t encourage them with questions, nothing at all. I said nothing. I got into the car, they started talking and I was filming. I didn’t ask any questions at all.
How did you gain the trust of the Imams?
I won the trust of Abu Laban first and foremost… (…) Abu Laban was in the other car. He was being filmed by my colleague.
UPDATE 6
Screenshots from the documentary:
Abu Zakaria talking with Mohamed Sifaoui
Ahmed Akkari in the car
Sheikh Raed Hlayhel
Ahmed Akkari has issued a public apology. It’s funny that he has to defend himself with the words that were used to defend the cartoons. Funny in a hilarious way. Really hilarious. “In Denmark there is a tradition for humour, irony, sarcasm and jests…” I don’t believe him, by the way.
Translated from TV2:
No threat to Naser Khader
I have learned that a recording made with a hidden camera has caused much debate in the media in Denmark.The recording was of a group of people talking and having a good time. The mood was loose and free, and jokes were made. In this mood and spirit I said what has now been understood as a threat against Naser Khader.
I would like to emphasise that my remark carried no serious intent and that Naser Khader of course need not feel threatened by me. It was said in jest only and looking back I see that it may have been a bit out of place and too rough on the edges.
In Denmark there is a tradition for humour, sarcasm, irony and jests and I have often heard jests of an equally jestful nature from many different parties. Not just Moslems.
Both I and other Moslems in Denmark have have always had the position on Naser Khader and his political career that when we feel we must oppose him we do so, but only with words. Unfortunately a cheerful mood can sometimes escalate and I deeply regret that this statement, which was made in jest only, has been taken seriously.
Who only sees jest as jest
And the serious as only serious…
The last part is part of a gruk (kind of a saying) by Piet Hein, which goes so in Danish: “Den som kun tager spøg for spøg, og alvor kun alvorligt, han og hun har faktisk fattet begge dele dårligt”
Translated: “Who only sees jest as jest, and the serious as only serious, he and she has understood both things poorly.”
So which is it? Jest or serious?
When we’re talking about people who supported the September 11 attacks, it is hard for mere mortals to tell the difference.
UPDATE 7
DR.DK has brought a list of statements by politicians about this case. Some of them are new.
Spokesman on Immigrant Politics, Elsebeth Gerner Nielsen, Social Liberals:
Murder threats are not somthing to jest about and particularly not in the current situation. I can’t distance myself enough from those statements. Some things seem to indicate that he is a criminal or in any case insane.
Chairman of Conservatives’ parliament group, Helge Adam Møller:
We have long known that Ahmed Akkari speaks with a forked tongue, but that one of its forks is so poisonous is, after all, a surprise to me.
Coming up in next update: Translation of an article which describes the documentary.
UPDATE 8
Sorry, didn’t get that translation done. This interview came up. From Denmark’s Radio. Link.
Interviewer: Akkari, I would like to begin this with reading to you a quote: “If he becomes the Minister of Foreigners or Integration, why don’t we send out two guys to blow up him and his ministry?” who spoke those words?
Akkari: I don’t recall saying anything either in jest or in earnest. If it happened, it is regrettable and a very crude jest, which I immediately and at once want to express my regrets for and distance myself from.
Interviewer: What is it you find jesting about those words?
Akkari: Perhaps there isn’t anything funny about them. It’s more sarcastic and out of proportions in a light-hearted context… And it’s very unfortunate that something like that is taken seriously because there’s no intent there, at all.
Interviewer: But what might make you - in jest - threaten to murder a prominent Danish politician?
Akkari: Our tongues can, all of us, run to the right or to the left and I think that’s what happened in very simple circumstances where there’s been a slightly humourous situation… and talked a bit to the right or to the left about something funny.
Interviewer: Do we agree that it is serious to threaten a Danish politician with murder?
Akkari: I will write him a letter to insure him that it wasn’t the intent at all… and that I have eh… never wished nor do I wish… I take strong exception to anyone who would plan or think of something like that… Whether it’s in jest or in earnest, it’s totally reprehensible.
Interviewer: What’s your comment on having been reported to the police?
Akkari: Eeehh… I don’t think that anything… comes from that because it’s something that’s totally unserious and something that’s… I take exception to in the most direct way and I also assure Naser that it isn’t something he was meant by.
Interviewer: But if you’re saying that you’ve acted in an irresponsible manner here, how do you imagine Danish Moslems and the Danish population in general respecting you and taking you serious in the future as spokesman for Moslems in Denmark?
Akkari: One thing is what one usually says, another thing is that… anyone can err - we are human, have that as something we were built with that that error may happen so people will have to judge by the whole and not by such a single, unique rather unconcentrated situation in a car where there’s a lot of loose talk.
Interviewer: The last couple of days, I have several times asked you whether you could give me any guarantees that what you’re saying in front of the camera is the same as you’re saying in the nooks while talking to your Moslem brothers. What do you think of the fact that you, time upon time, have told me that you could guarentee that - you weren’t one to talk with a forked tongue, that you’re reliable, that you have but one message: Peace and reconciliation?
Akkari: Eeeh… All people joke about certain things eeeehh… which they usually don’t support… eeeh… or normally say - express that that is their position. I think that’s what happened - there’s come a serious, crude joke which is no more. I have rejected it and taken clear exception to it. It’s nothing I in any way have any intent of doing.
Interviewer: Do you think you can continue on as spokesman for the Islamic Faith Community of Denmark?
Akkari: I think the line is clear and there’s nothing to mix up with this. So.. eh, yes I don’t see that it’s a problem, what’s happened.
Interviewer: But isn’t it hard to have a serious, respected spokesman who goes around and, in jest, threatens to murder Danish politicians?
Akkari: No, because I have threatened to kill nobody and this has been a completely unacceptable situation.
Interviewer: But how do you explain that it happens, that you’re sitting in the company of another Imam and an undercover journalist crack that kind of joke. What makes you crack such a joke?
Akkari: I think it’s been a rather light-hearted situation where people have been talking right and left, and then one can sometimes overdo it in describing a catastrophe, or a problem. So I think that’s all that’s been the meaning of that.
Interviewer: Will there, in the future, be uncovered other quotes where you maybe have threatened other Danish politicians or said anything else, that might contravene your official position of peace and reconciliation?
Akkari: I think that all my official an unofficial positions are of the same cloth, but both you and everybody else can sometimes say and use some words which they normally don’t.. approve of or really mean in conditions of light-heartedness and… I don’t drink [alcohol] but others do and the things one say when there’s a light-hearted mood, that is what happens.
Interviewer: But have you made other, similar, remarks where you’ve threatened to kill other Danish politicians or doing something similarly radical?
Akkari: I couldn’t even remember the reference to that, before you mention it, so I don’t think I have said it, and if I have said that then I take exception to myself and those statements - if there’s something to it - where my tongue was faster than my brain in such a special situation.
Interviewer: How do you think the Danish people should view you after these statements - in jest - about killing a Danish politician?
Akkari: It’s not statements about killing a Danish politician. And I think the people have more reason and sense to understand these kinds of things than one would think.
Interviewer: So you’re certain that the Danish people will forgive what you call an innocent joke?
Akkari: That’s up to them, but I am sure that people see that this isn’t anything to be taken seriously at all.
[Camera changes, interviewer out of picture. Ahmed Akkari seen being interviewed]
Akkari: We have made satire and poked fun at many things and…
[Camera changes back]
Interviewer: Do you understand that it might be hard for Danes to accept that it’s not okay to make caricatures of Muhammed, but that it’s okay to threaten - in jest - to kill a Danish politician?
Akkari: That’s a wrong conclusian and comparison to make of this.
Interviewer: Isn’t it very natural? You’ve been very angry, very offended that your prophet has been offended, but now you’ve - in jest - threatened to kill a politician. How do you think Naser Khader feels today?
Akkari: I hope he feels only safe because we all know that stuff like this is ridiculous and not acceptable. Good.
[Camera moves, another journalist moves in]
Interviewer 2: You were confronted with your statement…
[time lapse in interview]
Akkari: … recorded it, then I must have said it, otherwise I wouldn’t remember it.
Interviewer 2: So you DID say it?
Akkari: If they can document it with a tape, it must have been said, I can’t say more than that.
[another journalist]
Interviewer 3: Do you doubt that you’ve said it? Because they write..
Akkari: Yes, I do. But I don’t have…
[time lapse again, original journalist back in the game]
Interviewer: How do you think your threats against Naser Khader affect the situation for Danish Moslems?
Akkari: I don’t think they have to affect anything, because if we have a public who understand things in proportions, nothing will happen, but if one is very narrow-minded, I do understand how…
Interviewer: But don’t you think you’ve hurt the cause of Moslems in Denmark by threatening to kill a Danish politician?
Akkari: No, I don’t think that will happen, because, as I have said, it’s something that’s.. a unique situation.
UPDATE 9
Naser Khader is considering resigning his mandate in the Danish parliament Folketinget. JP has published a report by Ritzau’s bureau quoting a statement made to TV2’s news programme by Naser Khader saying that he is considering leaving Danish politics following the death threat made by Ahmed Akkari. It says that the last few months have put him under intense pressure and he has had to accept protection by the Police Intelligence Service. According to TV2, Naser Khader has experienced very unpleasant episodes, i.a. confrontations with the Moslem extremist of Hizb-ut-Tahrir and other radical organisations. He has also received death threats by mail.
Therefore he has chosen to take a political time-out before announcing his decision.
Marianne Jelved, the leader of the Social Liberals says to DR about the news that she has had contact with Naser Khader and that:
He and his family are understandably very shaken. They need a bit of peace this weekend. We in the parliamentary group will give all possible support to Naser Khader and his family. I don’t hope that he does that, resigns from politics. It’s unbearable, but I respect that he needs a few days of peace.
Friend of Naser Khader, parliamentarian Morten Helveg Petersen of the Social Liberals says to Politiken:
Naser is the symbol of seperation between religion and politics and that is why this is bigger than just that forked-tongued guy Akkari. As a religious leader he has a responsibility to not create a situation and to not deceive. That responsibility he has failed totally and my fear is that it has an effect in places we don’t know well enough. That’s why there’s cause for concern.
UPDATE 10 MARCH 24 18:41 CET
Naser Khader has issued this statement on his website:
My Situation
March 24, 2006
There’s a lot of speculation about my situation right now. But let me make this clear: I have not gone under ground, nor did I have a nervous breakdown. I need to rest after having endured several months of stress, and I need to be with my family.Thank you very much for the many mails I have received supporting me and and my family.
Regards,
Naser Khader.
Ekstra Bladet reports that Naser Khader has hired a crisis psychologist to help him. He says to Ekstra Bladet that:
I have said all along that I would overcome the threats, but I just can’t anymore. It’s just become too much.
This blog hopes that Naser Khader gets better. He’s a great man.
Sandmonkey had a post up with a link to the first 6 minutes of the programme yesterday. Before the post was deleted, I snatched the link.
DR.DK reports that Imam Ahmed Akkari is no longer the spokesman for the Islamic Faith Community. Board member of the Islamic Faith Community, Kasaem Said Ahmad:
Akkari cannot be our Spokesman after these remarks.
Akkari didn’t have much to say:
I have no comments to that.
Which is surprising. He usually comments on everything.
Board member and co-creator of the Democratic Moslems organisation, Fathi el-Abed Friday reported the Danish Imam Ahmed Akkari to the Danish police for his statements in the French programme. Elsebeth Gerner Nielsen of the Social Liberals has already done this, making that the second report the police received. These high-profile cases usually generate quite a number of reports in Denmark.
UPDATE 11 MARCH 25 00:01 CET
BREAKING NEWS
Imam Abu Laban of the same group as Imam Ahmed Akkari was caught on tape by Mohammed Sifaoui talking about a person who santed to execute a suicide operation. More here.
UPDATE 12 MARCH 25 00:14 CET
From Sandmonkey, the clip where Imam Ahmed Akkari goes all goofy, talks about killing a Danish Politician. Cracks me up he does. What a joker.
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Translated the first article to report on this, from Jyllands-Posten today:
(Not available online, though an online shorter version is available here)
Imams Busted by Hidden Camera
By PERNILLE AMMITZBØLL and JØRGEN ULLERUP
French TV tonight reveals the truth about the Danish Imams. According to France 2, Imam Ahmed Akkari mentions the possibility of blowing up Naser Khader of the Social Liberals, while Sheikh Raed Hlayhel want to create an atmosphere of hate against Jyllands-Posten. Major protests from Danish politicians.
/Paris/
The aggressive defense by the Danish Imams in the row surrounding Jyllands-Posten is accompanied by an aggressive campaign against the Democratic Moslems organisation and against critics in the press, especially Jyllands-Posten.
That will be revealed tonight in a documentary from Denmark on the French TV-Station France 2, whose journalists have used hidden cameras to get a look at the Imams’ real doings.
Threat with a smile
In a central part of the documentary, Imam Ahmed Akkari indirectly threatens the leader of the Democratic Moslems, Naser Khader, who he suggest they murder if he becomes a minister.“If he becomes the Minister of Foreigners or Integration, why don’t we send out two guys to blow up him and his ministry?” says the spokesman for the delegation of Moslems who travelled the Middle East.
The remark was delivered with a smile in Arabic, while the Arab journalist behind the programme, Mohamed Sifaoui, was sitting next to him in the car’s back seat. But Akkari didn’t know he was being recorded. Sifaoui didn’t make clear whether the statement should be considered as being ironic or a provocation.
Khader Shocked
Naser Khader yesterday was still too shocked to comment on Ahmed Akkari’s statements.Peter Skaarup of the Danish People’s Party plans to bring the matter to Minister of Justice Lene Espersen’s attention.
“It’s pure threats and it only goes to show how crazy these Imams have been acting. I will at once ask the Minister what punishment can be given for making such statements and whether it is a punishable offense,” says Peter Skaarup.
Jens Rohde of the Liberals is also shocked by the statement.
“This is certainly very disturbing and it shows what we’re up against. That’s also why I am worried about what is happening at that conference in Bahrain which Ahmed Akkari is a delegate to,” says Jens Rohde.
Also Jyllands-Posten is targeted by the Imams’ wrath. During the same drive in Copenhagen, Sheikh Raed Hlayhel, Imam for the Mosque on Hrimhøjvej in Aarhus that, that it is important to keep the pot boiling and to create a climate of hate against Jyllands-Posten. He didn’t know he was being recorded, either.
Targeted Campaign
From other parts of the documentary, we learn that the Imams have consciously targeted their campaign specifically against Jyllands-Posten and not against any of the other newspapers who have printed Jyllands-Posten’s cartoons. Imam Abu Bilal from Aarhus accuses Jyllands-Posten of being run by Jews and Abu Laban explains that it’s about getting at the root of the problem.“This only confirms my suspicions. These Imams aren’t going for the ball, they’re targeting the player. They’ve given Jyllands-Posten the evil eye and use religion as a lever, but now they’ve been caught red-handed at trying to use the situation for political gains,” says Peter Skaarup.
Ahmed Akkari denies ever being in a car with Sheikh Raed Hlayhel and a French Journalist.
“I’ve never said anything like that about Naser Khader, but they are welcome to try and prove it, ” he says.
Sheikh Raed Hlayhel also denies having said what the French documentary says he did.
“It’s absurd, the hatred against the newspaper has always been there,” says Raed Hlayhel.
H/t: Sugiero in comments
THE DANISH IMAM’S BOMB THREAT
Ahmed Akkari Danish Imam Ahmed Akkari, who helped inflame the Cartoon Jihad, has reportedly been taped on a hidden camera threatening to kill Naser Khader, a member of Denmark’s Parliament who recently founded an organization for moderate Muslims. Ac…
Trackback by Michelle Malkin — March 23, 2006 @ 12:06 pm
So it all was only a joke, from the beginning. The threats against the paper, the uproar, the torching, the boycott, the threat against the politician. All’s well that ends well. How glad I am, really!
Unless this explanation is a joke, too.
Comment by Luke — March 23, 2006 @ 3:00 pm
Here’s the link to the France 2 programme
http://envoye-special.france2.fr/emissions/19176022-fr.php
Comment by Luke — March 23, 2006 @ 4:18 pm
Danish Imam Caught On Camera Issuing Death Threat.
You just can’t make this stuff up. French journalist Mohamed Sifaoui managed to film Danish Imam, Ahmed Akkari (spokseman for the Danish Muslim group that traveled the ME with 12 cartoons plus 3 of their own) calling for the death of fellow Muslim Na…
Trackback by Tundra Tabloids....... — March 23, 2006 @ 4:45 pm
“Taking fun as simply fun
Piet Hein, “Runaway Runes”
and earnestness in earnest
shows how thoroughly thou none
of the two discernest.”
Comment by eudaimonia — March 23, 2006 @ 5:16 pm
This guy’s not funny by the way.
Comment by eudaimonia — March 23, 2006 @ 5:21 pm
Thank you for being one of the leading Scandinavian bloggers today
You still have many Norwegians cheering for you, even though our leaders are scum.
Comment by Fjordman — March 23, 2006 @ 5:31 pm
GREAT JOB
Comment by PIA CAUSA — March 23, 2006 @ 5:53 pm
Yes I agree with PIA CAUSA and Fjordman, you have really set the bar high for us fellow nordic bloggers! Great job!
Comment by KGS59 — March 23, 2006 @ 6:00 pm
Those wacky imams and their jokes! Creased me up that one
Comment by rexie — March 23, 2006 @ 6:29 pm
Yes, indeed a great posting in a great blog
Comment by von Schlichtningen — March 23, 2006 @ 7:00 pm
Thank you everybody.
#10, rexie
I had just translated the interview with Akkari when I read your comment. Real tension and all that from looking at that smug bastard’s face for an hour. Then I read your comment and ROFL!
Agora
Comment by Administrator — March 23, 2006 @ 7:10 pm
Danish Imam’s death threat
Courtesy of Agora:
Imam Ahmed Akkari has issued death threats against Naser Khader of the Social Liberals. Naser Khader founded the organisation “Democratic Moslems” in February, as an organisation for moderate, Democracy-minded Moslems to join. Se…
Trackback by The Nordish Portal — March 23, 2006 @ 7:13 pm
Eject your Imam scumbags and their families including children born in Denmark. Good luck to you Danes from the USA. You are a brave European nation that deserves none of this Muslim abuse. This is your thanks after allowing these termites to immigrate and after all your humanitarian missions to Palestinians and other Muslims
Never trust Muslim except for a very select few.
They follow the example of Muhammad and Muhammad lead an evil life. The “nice” Muslims have tons of denials and “explanations” for Muhammad’s barbarism and pedophilia
D
Comment by dennisw — March 23, 2006 @ 7:31 pm
The Akkari guy should be sentenced to tour the Muslim countries and read his letter to them, in front of a camera, at news times - under the control of Naser Khader.
Comment by Luke — March 23, 2006 @ 7:49 pm
More From Racist Denmark: Radical Imam Makes Death-Threats Against Moderate Muslim Leader, Caught On Tape
Recording equipment is Islamophobic. Now this vicious racism is even infecting our machines. I weep. Imam Ahmed Akkari has issued death threats against Naser Khader of the Social Liberals. Naser Khader founded the organisation Democratic Moslems in F…
Trackback by Ace of Spades HQ — March 23, 2006 @ 7:54 pm
Three cheers from Ronald McDonald land! We’re lovin it!
Comment by Darwin Finch — March 23, 2006 @ 8:15 pm
Naser Khader
The Danish politician Naser Khader is considering his future political career after (indirect, yet frightning) bomb-threats has been made against him by a Danish imam caught on camera.
I have a message for Mr. Khader: Please continue your work! I stron…
Trackback by Frederik Magle's Blog — March 23, 2006 @ 8:22 pm
Incredible job! Thank you for the updates. The last announcement from Naser Khader is disheartening. I pray he has the courage to continue on. I certainly would not blame him if he quit politics… So, when do the Danes arrest these fork-tongued Imams? Isn’t inciting riots worth a few days in the hoosegow?
Comment by Jim Hoft — March 23, 2006 @ 8:39 pm
This Akkari man was talking in arabic. Why does he refer to the danish humour? He spoke in his arabic identity, and there this question on killing is not a joke. Questions are a way to express opinion.
Comment by Luke — March 23, 2006 @ 9:10 pm
i feel really sorry for the danes and these harsh middle eastern extremists.
as an american i expect this kind of hatred from the middle east pointed at me, but denmark is the most misplaced target of hate anyone could choose.
i don’t think what the reporter did would be considered legal here in the united states, but i applaud their bravery and wish more of these secret truths would be exposed.
we have corrupt religious-political leaders here too, and many brave souls have uncovered their filth, but never as directly.
Comment by armen — March 23, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
Naser Khader, Freedom of Speech, Democracy, Abdul Rahman, and still Mr. Doudou
Agora blog reports on Naser Khader that is now being threatened by one of the Danish Imams. Naser Khader is a Syrian immigrant to Denmark that has the word DEMOCRACY tattooed on his arm.
Trackback by Cyrill Vatomsky's Blog and Podcasts — March 24, 2006 @ 3:43 am
Akkiri believes Nadhir is a catastrophe and a problem. The interviewer missed this …3 paragraphs above Akkari’s statement he does not drink alcohol……” I think it’s been a rather light hearted situation where people have been talking right and left, and then one can sometimes overdo it in describing a catastrophe, or a problem. So I think that’s all been the meaning of that.”
It seems to me that threats spoken in jest come from the heart. Naser Khader, I think should be worried from Muslim extremists.
Comment by Rusty — March 24, 2006 @ 5:20 am
Unfortunately, non-Muslims have not come to grips with Islam’s “prophet.” Mohammed, in point of historical fact, was a murderer (often beheading so-called “infidels” himself), thief (his raids on innocent people are well documented and celebrated by Islamic texts themselves), liar (please google “takiyya” and “kitman” - lying is justified in Islam so long as it furthers global Islamic domination), enslaver (the well documented fate of women and children conquered by Muslims, the men usually being beheaded) , slave owner (still practiced in many Islamic countries and I would note that the U.S. slave trade is dwarfed by that of Islam, both being evil), misogynist (women are chattel, worth only half that of a man, a woman can only receive half of her husband’s inheritance (assuming he has only one wife) and, if a woman is raped, a Sharia court will require four male witnesses to the act, something that is nearly impossible and also means that her words are worth 1/4 in an Islamic court than that of a man’s) and pedophile (his youngest wife was six years old, but he was a nice fellow and did not “deflower” her until she was nine [insert sarcasm]). Only an evil ideology could pillage and murder over tame cartoons. Religion of peace? LOL!!!
Comment by G5Protocol — March 24, 2006 @ 5:47 am
To reference Rusty’s comment above,To be concise, he could have meant when saying “castrophe and problem” that the current rout of extremist action was troubling and that’s a joke on that’s what they would do in his situation. Since his comment lack content (and i hope to hear the explanation from an arabic speaking reporter!) and his attitude appears to me to say that ‘infidels’ should just believe whatever their told and stop proposing silly misgivings with no basis.. he is certainly not qualified for his post if that is the best he can do. And perhaps, guilty of much worse. I find myself revolted at this personage, and hope the muslim community responds to this. Certainly as a litmus test, else this repressful response may signify some serious questions that are being tactfully ignored. Sigh…
Comment by enterloper — March 24, 2006 @ 5:51 am
Sammenhold Blogroll News
Please welcome new Sammenhold Blogroll Members: Soyooz and The Extremist ….. God Save the Danes!
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Trackback by Blue Star Chronicles — March 24, 2006 @ 5:55 am
I saw the report. Ahmed Akkari licked his lips when he pronouced the death threat.
Is there a way to see his interview on TV2? Would be interesting to stdy his body and face language
Comment by Luke — March 24, 2006 @ 9:10 am
I am quite sure, that it is a joke too, that my webblog www.polemiken.net has been hacked this morning.
Yesterday evening I posted a comment or two about Ahmed Akkari and Abu Laban - and suddenly my blog went down for some periods. Hundreds of automatically created e-mails and other contact attempts to the blog went in.
For some minutes ago the whole blog apparently has disappered completely from cyberspace
I hope my webmaster, IL KIMPO, is able to save Polemiken. Now.
Comment by Kimpolina — March 24, 2006 @ 10:53 am
You know…it occurs to me that not only do we have IMAMS (not even a head of government, merely a sort of preacher) howling for death and retribution here in Denmark (and in other countries as it happens) but we also have IMAMS howling for death and retribution in Afghanistan, over a man who converted 16 years ago in another country (not that any of that really matters) to Christianity. CHRISTIANITY! One of the so-called by Muslims, ‘people of the book’.
Now the real question is…WHY ARE PREACHERS IN THE ISLAMIC FAITH DICTATING FOREIGN POLICY TO THE REST OF THE WORLD?
How is it that a backwoods, backwards, imam in Afghanistan can call for the death of a simple man who is a Christian and defy the will of not only his own government but that of the United States and the Coalition of nations which have shed blood and treasure to return Afghanistan to the people of Afghanistan from the tyrrany of the Taliban?
Why is a rustic rural koran-thumping illiterate dictating foreign policy to the rest of the world? Especially when the rest of the world has shown itself to be demonstrably more able to cope than has any part of Afghanistan under the influence of this backwards imam.
Who are these illiterate untutored Middle Eastern men who give themselves a title of ‘imam’ and take on the cloak of religiosity and ostentatious piety in order TO BE SEEN TO BE SEEN, who then expect the government of nations to adhere to their hysterical and paranoid screeches and dictates?
Why aren’t we asking ourselves what we REALLY FEAR? When we don’t put some untutored imam with a fourth grade education in his place, why are we letting this uncouth, unlettered rustic DEMAND ANYTHING? WHO IS HE? WHO ARE THEY?
The Danes have the right idea and Hamid Kharzai should take a page out of their book and tell the Afghan imam to shut up and be quiet. Instead Kharzai, by not squelching the man immediately, has played into their hands. He should have been loud and forceful in his denial of their demands. He should have been more Danish!
Comment by foreign devil — March 24, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
I am an American. I say Nuke all these fanatics. “Lake Iran” can be a tourist attraction in about 10,000 years!
Comment by Dale — March 24, 2006 @ 4:23 pm
I am a Indian in Europe, i am sick of this Islam mentality…, i think now its time we all have to do something to boost up our goverments to get out of Islamophobia. i thought west will support Denmark.. but it is also suffering….. but what u all think, we can’t kill all Muslim’s as there are good muslims tooo, and we are controlled by Human right’s…. but we can punish them in such a way that there moral or aim to attain paradise just get destroyed, hey we have a new time…. i m not speaking of holy cows but what if we give a honour of bathing through holy pig blood to those muslim’s terrorist (dead or alive)…., if they want to drink… pig blood drink’s, if they want to eat… tasty pig meat from french kitchen’s. i mean its written in Quran that they should stay away from cute piggies…. and there product or Entry to paradise is closed. let those criminal see how we place a no-entry board to that paradise… which they want to enter from super highway of terror….. as well as it will also expand pig meat industry of Europe… in a new dimension…. i mean we are utilising the same blood… we are not killing them specially for blood….
Comment by perfektm — March 24, 2006 @ 8:10 pm
Please cut out the bullshit. Racism is not the way.
Comment by Luke — March 24, 2006 @ 8:13 pm
Excellent post. Expose these internal imam networks as quickly as we can. This is the command and control system the terrorists use to create events like the Paris riots, the Mecca stampede, the cartoon riots needs to be charted and uprooted for what it is a poison leeching off the democratic practices and principles we believe in. We are the perfect “Host”.
cn
Comment by Colin Nelson — March 24, 2006 @ 9:10 pm
The fanatical muslims, and muslims in general, use our democratic values against us!!
They know they can get away with alot, by afterwards crying racism. They know the race card is a very powerful card to play!!
They cry for the deaths of those who would draw cartoons, because it “dishonors” their religion…and they work the entire muslim world up into a frenzied, snarling, pack of Dogs, ready to slaughter anything that would cross their path….and they call on nations to bow down and apologize endlessly or “face their wrath”. Demand that laws be enacted so that these “insults” on Islam are never repeated…etc…etc…etc…
You see, when they cry racism and inequality, our western antenna shoot up and we start backing away and stuttering!!!…
“Oh dear lord, we don’t wanna step on anyones rights here”!!
“Lordy, Lordy, I think maybe we better give up some of our own rights so that these minority outsiders won’t get their little feelings hurt and tear up the joint”!!!
BUT DOING THIS WILL ONLY CAUSE US REGRETS ON DOWN THE LINE!!
He have to get a better plan than this if we hope to survive the islamic bloodbath!!
I say let’s beat them at their own game!!
Let’s use OUR democratic laws to shut them down permanently!!
It’s extremely easy to do as Democracy & islam are polar opposites and every single thing they (Islam) say can be directly interpreted as a complete opposite of a democratic society!!!
SO…………
When they say or do something that absolutely goes against the principles of democracy, or something that definately goes against Christianity……we should get all up in their faces, decry the insult on our governmental system or religion, and we should demand endless apologys with the added “or face our wrath” sort of threats!!!
We should bring any incidents up over & over & over again, and no matter how many apologys we get we will NEVER forget and we certainly will NEVER forgive…. Yeah lets DRAG IT OUT!!!
And if muslims say “oh thats not nice, why can’t you christians/democratites just accept that we are this way”.
Well then we can yell for months & months about how they are intolerant of our democracy/religion, and because this would really make us cranky,…. every single thing we do in retaliation is just what they should have expected for daring to offend us!!!
Yeah we can burn their flags as we cry “death to muslims”, or if we are very quiet about it we could fire bomb their embassies or behead their citizens (of course we would be criminals rather than heroes if WE did those things), or on occassion, for those muslims who directly caused the offending moment,…… we shall stab them in the street and leave threatening notes attached to their torsos.!!!
And the best part about it, we can blame it on being offended, hell we could even prove that we were offended in a court of law, sue their asses and take some of their oil money!! WOO HOO!!!!
Because EVERYTHING about Islam contradicts democracy and christianity and that contradiction is OFFENSIVE & RACIST!!!!!
FAIR IS FAIR!!!…….LET’S PLAY!!!!
Comment by Morgon — March 24, 2006 @ 10:53 pm
One thing is obvious; Muslims and especially the Islamists who take themselves waaaaaay too seriously, HATE TO BE LAUGHED AT. We must do more of it. More cartoons, more jokes, more not taking them seriously. They HATE it and totally lose their cool when they think they’re being mocked. MOCK AWAY!
Comment by foreign devil — March 25, 2006 @ 2:51 am
“Islamophopia” is a phony term invented by UK jihadists about 15 years ago. A phobia is an irrational fear. Anyone fearing the fascism of Islam is being quite rational. Further, Islam is not a race. Therefore, being anti-Islam is not to be racist. While there are “moderate” (moderate defined as not fully following the death cult that is Islam), there is no such things as “moderate” Islam. That is pure fiction. The next time that there are major attacks on non-Muslim countries, Muslims need to realize that Mecca and Medina can be turned into glass in about 20 minutes.
Comment by G5Protocol — March 25, 2006 @ 7:59 pm
FUCK Abu Laban and Ahmad Akkari. They should be kicked out of Denmark! (Why aren’t they being kicked out!?) Since they hate the Danes so much why the fuck are they here then! No one is holding them here? Is this the way they treat the country that came to their rescue when they needed it! FUCK THOSE UNGRATEFUL SHITHEADS!
Comment by Acadia — March 27, 2006 @ 5:00 pm
Ahmed Akkari is the scum of the earth - and so is his backwards religion. Islam is a virus - and this piece of trash is a virus. Islam should be treated as any other virus is treated….eradication. And to you scumbag muslims: your prophet was a murdurous, slave driving pedophile and he’s burning in hell right now. And if you dont like what I say….email me and we can figure out a place to meet - I live in Oakland California, USA and you better bring your homies with you because God (not allah) knows I’ll bring mine.
You Akkari are a coward, just like your religion, collectively is a coward. You’re not man enough to allow your women to think and live for themselves. Islam is not man enough, collectively. You’re on record as having beaten up a little boy - some man you are - you FREAKIN’ coward. I dare you or any other islamic trash to try and beat up a little boy with me standing right there…I double dog dare you, you SOB. I’ll beat you 8 ways from Sunday - I dare you to email me and show up in OAKLAND CALIFORNIA USA - or if you’re in Denmark - tell some of your islamic trash here to email me and we’ll set up a meeting place and they’ll be given a man-size beat down. I can have a crew of at least 10 - 10 big pipe-hittin’ brothers who would love to take down some islamic scum. Which means that if its gonna be an fair fight - you little muslims who like to beat your women and your children better bring 40 people if you want to have a snowball’s chance in hell against my 10. You can tell your islamic trash in California to email me at osiris555@gmail.com and I’ll be *happy* to set up a “meeting”. you prick.
To all you coward Islam-o-bitches….guess what I got….
INFIDEL PRIDE
INFIDEL FUCKIN’ PRIDE
DID YOU HEAR THAT, islam-o-bitches?
INFIDEL PRIDE
Its a chip on my shoulder….come knock it off - punk asses.
Comment by OSIRIS — March 28, 2006 @ 11:20 pm
Islam became a “religion” by the sworde,i recomend those brainless persons that follow a crazy religion to read the truth!!!!!
Comment by anti_islam — March 29, 2006 @ 6:35 am
AHMED AKKARI & ABU LABAN NEEDS TO BE KICKED OUT OF DENMARK- NO QUESTIONS ASKED. MUSLIMS ARE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE- THEY DO NOT FIT IN - IN A CEVILIZED WORLD- SORRY TO SAY SO BUT IT IS TRUE
Comment by BIRGITTE — March 31, 2006 @ 9:35 pm
dont be sorry for saying that Brigitte - its the truth - we as westerners need to remove ourselves from the ridculous realm of political correctness and worrying about hurting the feelings of muslims. they are a backwards culture that produces nothing but death and destruction. They know not how to build, only how to tear down. They are a backwards religion and their venerated prophet was a pedophile, a genocidal murderer, practitioner of incest, and a theif. Most important Brigitte (and Denmark) - SHOW NO FEAR
Comment by OSIRIS — March 31, 2006 @ 10:46 pm
Brigitte, do not feel as if you need to aplologize to anyone for speaking what is the truth. We westerners need to come to grips with the fact that our own political correctness is what got us into this mess with muslims in the first place. Feeling as if we owe immigrants a chance to thrive in our societies is an example of political correctness run amok. We had good intentions as it pertains to immigration in that we all want to believe that immigrants make our respective countries stronger - and generally this is true. Except it is not true it the case of muslims. They follow a 7th centruy ideology and have not had a religious reformation that has spelled out for them that they should not interpret a 7th century religious text, their “holy” koran, literally. So instead of embracing our collective generosity, they’d rather go down the path of spitting in our face and trying to rob us of our respective national independence and make us into some European/American caliph reminiscent of the 7th century with their backward sharia law, backward society and backward religion. A religion that venerates a “prophet” who was at once a genocidal mass murderer, a pedophile, a practitioner of incest, and a theif. Above all else Brigitte (and Denmark) - DO NOT LET THEM ROB YOU OF YOUR DAINSHNESS OR YOUR PRINCPLES AND DO NOT BE AFRAID OF THEM. If you are strong in your convictions there will not be any fear in you - then naturally you will show no fear. Remove the muslims from your country - and do not aplogize for it. Do it with pride and do it with a smile on your face - as the day they are gone is a happy day.
Comment by OSIRIS — March 31, 2006 @ 11:01 pm
Death Threats in Denmark
Americans have very short attention spans. Of course, thats what the mullahs count on. Osama BenOver himself once said that all they had to do was be patient, because we would lose focus. After the initial outrage over the killings and riots and ge…
Trackback by Blue Star Chronicles — April 3, 2006 @ 3:49 am
I didn’t realize that Islam was such a light-hearted, fun-loving religion! All this time, I thought they were kind of austere, you know, make jokes about us and we’ll kill you, that sort of thing. How could I have been so wrong?
So I have a joke for all my Muslim comedian friends. I feel comfortable telling this joke because I now realize that if they can laugh at murder, they can laugh at anything — especially those wacky Danish imams! — and will not be in any way offended.
This Muslim dies and is met by St. Peter, who says, “Welcome to Heaven!”
The Muslim says, “Thank you, St. Peter. I am honoured to meet you, but I am a Muslim, and would like to be greeted by the Prophet (pbuh).”
St. Peter looks confused. “The prophet?” he asks.
“Yes,” says the Muslim. “The Prophet Mohammed (pbuh).”
“Oh!” says St. Peter. “Mohammed…Okay, well, in that case, take that elevator to the fourth floor and take a left through the double doors.”
The Muslim ascends to the fourth floor and is met by Buddha. “Welcome to Heaven, my friend.”
The Muslim says, “Thank you Buddha, but I am looking for the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh).”
“Mohammed?” says Buddha. “You want to meet…Mohammed?”
“Very much,” says the Muslim.
“Well, then, just go through those double doors.”
The Muslim enters the double doors, and who should be standing before him but Jesus Christ, who welcoms him with a beatific smile and a warm embrace, saying, “Welcome to Heaven!”
The Muslim has become annoyed, and says, “Jesus, I mean no disrespect to you, but I am a Muslim, and I demand to be received by Mohammed (pbuh)! Immediately!”
“Really? Mohammed?”
“YES!”
“Well, okay,” says Christ. “Would you like some coffee while you’re waiting?”
“Certainly,” says the Muslim.
Christ turns and yells at the kitchen, “Yo! Mohammed! Two coffees, black, no sugar.”
Comment by Darrell — April 12, 2006 @ 11:28 pm
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.
— Philip Dick
Comment by Darrell — April 12, 2006 @ 11:30 pm