My Take on the events Sorrounding the whole Jens Rohde debacle
My take on this whole affair… The original post is here. But I have begun a new one because it seems that we have achieved some sort of semi-closure on this issue, and also the original post had gotten too huge to handle. Now there’s only left to apportion blame. To understand this post you should read the first post. The source material I am quoting is all neatly referenced in the first post.
Where to start…. How about the beginning.
Jens Rohde had a meeting this Thursday with the Chairman of the Cartoonist’s Association, Claus Seidel. No more participants are mentioned in the news I have read. The Cartoonist’s Association is somehow affiliated with the Danish Journalist’s Guild, chaired by Mogens Blicher Bjerregaard.
Jens Rohde Thursday on TV-Avisen(in first post):
I think we ought to consider that we have 12 cartoonists in this country who have to live in hiding under protection, have had their lives turned around. The daughter of one of the cartoonists was sought out by 12 Moslem males at her school - they wanted to get at her. Luckily, she wasn’t there.
So, Jens Rohde, as the political spokesman for the Liberal party goes out and says something. Clearly it must be true. No?
No. Next day, Friday, comes this response from Mogens Blicher Bjerregaard (bottom of first post):
VOICE: But there were no 12 Moslem males. They were youngsters. Mogens Blicher Bjerregaard, speaking on behalf of the 12 Muhammed cartoonists, who are all members of the Journalist’s association, says to Ritzaus Bureau: “This is blown out of proportions, and that information was confidential. It’s not dignified for a big-time politician to use his airtime to spread such stories from the housetops. This may potentially worsen the predicament of the cartoonists and their families,” says Mogens Blicher Bjerregaard.
Ok, so Rohde wasn’t entirely correct in his statement. But still somewhere along the general axis of truth.
So thinks Jens Rohde apparently, in a response to Jyllands-Posten the same day, Friday:
“I find it quite out of order to accuse me of using this for my selfish political ends. I have given Mogens Blicher Bjerregaard a very thorough explanation of the background and the context of this remark, so it comes as a blow to me that he would say what he says,” Jens Rohde says.
BUT. Friday night this comes from Politiken:
According to the information Politiken has received, the actual case was about a group of 6-8 Moslem girls from another school who had gone to the school of the daughter of one of the cartoonists. They wanted “the daughter of the cartoonist who had insulted their prophet,” but were turned away at the door.
The cartoonist’s daughter wasn’t at school that day, but both she and the family were very distressed. The Police was informed of the matter, which was taken care of by the school involved, Politiken has learned.
Apparently, they have an independent source for this. So Jens Rohde was flat out lying? He might have been correctly quoting from the meeting? Well…..
Saturday, this comes from the cartoonist involved in Politiken:
“They weren’t adults, but 6th grade students and can’t be more then 10 or 11 years old. There weren’t 12 persons, but at most 6-8 girls. And what has been reported as something that might have been planned because of the Muhammed cartoons was the result of a year-long strife between the students of the 2 schools which began long before the Muhammed cartoons issue, ” the cartoonist says.
He wants to emphasise that the strife has now been amiably settled.
“They are kids, and it was a girl thing which might as well have been about someone taking another’s boyfriend. What Jens Rohde said was something he made up, and it is really disturbing that he would ever go public with this story. I think it should be made clear how he has lied,” says the cartoonist, who wishes to remain anonymous to protect his family.
So, this is clearly another source - notice no mention of “Moslem”, no mention of what they said and an added estimate of their age. And the cartoonist is clearly downplaying their age, because schoolchildren start school at age 6 (the latest allowed is at age 7) in Denmark, so they might have been anywhere from 11-13 years old. He also downplays the role of the (Moslem) girls, saying it was a “girl thing” - doesn’t sound like it to me, when I consider the information from Politiken that they said they were there to get “the daughter of the cartoonist who had insulted their prophet”. I think we can say that the cartoonist probably thinks he is telling the truth in general, though. Just making it a bit prettier. And he probably is also righteously furious at Jens Rohde for passing on infomation which he thought was explicitly confidential.
BUT. He was the one who relayed the information to Claus Seidel. So what does Seidel have to say? Well, this:
“The meeting was confidential, and nothing was written down. So that story must be on Jens Rohde’s head. He can say what he likes - and so can I. I shan’t be the judge of who has the best recollection of the meeting. But Jens Rohde oughn’t to pass on something - in this time of much tension - which hasn’t been put on paper and where the parties don’t agree on what’s been said.,” Claus Seidel says to Ritzau.
So…. Seidel isn’t saying that Rohde must be knowingly lying - he may merely be telling the truth as he sees it. But why oughn’t Jens Rohde to pass on this information? Was it in fact mentioned explicitly that he must never say this to anyone, well no, according to Seidel:
It wasn’t mentioned explicitly, but it was implicit. The meeting centered on the Police Intelligence Service who have for six months asked us not to speak on the matter. He should have the experience to know this. That’s why I am very disappointed that he goes directly from the meeting and shouts from the rooftops what he was given in confidentiality.
So, what does Jens Rohde have to say to this? Does he think he is lying? As Claus Seidel, Jens Rohde is clearly very much doubtful of that (taken from the interview transcribed at the bottom of this post):
I can only take note that the information that I was given, I must have misunderstood, because what I said seems to not be the case. But apart from that I don’t wish to enter into further dialogue, or shoutingmatch, with Claus Seidel about the exact wording at that meeting. But I would like to stress that I have at no point doubted that some of the horrendous things that Claus Seidel tells me the cartoonists have experienced ought in some way to be put on the public agenda in order to further the public understanding of the cartoonists int this debate because they are constantly villified by many parties.
So, where does this leave us? Allow me to summarise.
There was a meeting Thursday. What was said at that meeting is…. Not clear. But the evasive response from Claus Seidel and the strong response from Rohde who doesn’t “wish to enter into further dialogue, or shoutingmatch, with Claus Seidel about the exact wording at that meeting”. So, it seems clear to me that what was said was closer to the 12 Moslem males than to the 6-8 girls. Also, it seems a bit fishy that the first to respond to this is Bjerregaard from the Journalist’s Guild. Why not Claus Seidel? I think that at that moment Bjerregaard was representing the cartoonists - he clearly thinks that the meeting was explicitly confidential. But that turned out to not have been so.
My assesment of what happened therefore is this: Claus Seidel was at the meeting where he exaggerated the story about the cartoonist’s daughter. He also didn’t say to Jens Rohde that it was explicitly confidential - that nothing could be even paraphrased from that meeting.
Therefore, I think Jens Rohde is probably not to blame. I think he acted in good faith.
To back my own crazy-ass opinion up, I quote here some other crazy-ass opinions. Here from the last post’s comment section by “dane in spain”:
As mentioned earlier, nothing was written down, Maybe Jens Rohde got it wrong, and maybe the chairman exagurated during the meeting and regretted aferwards.
Just as the Cartoons have been an internal tool in the Islamic countries, it is now one in Denmark.
From the same place by “Dhimmi”:
Jens Rohde got this information from someone who had an agenda of some kind. But that agenda included - maybe - not that Rohde should go straight to the press. He was perhaps just meant to be manipulated to get upset. If somebody lied, it was not Jens Rohde, but he is now unable to talk back out of loyalty to the cartoonists. There is no way, Jens Rohde could have made the story up. Why would it ever be told in this forum if it was a matter of a private nature and irrelevant to the subject ? There’s no way it would, impossible. Somebody is keeping us in the dark. What are we not mature enough to know ? Speak up !
And again, same source by Martin of http://bibelen.blogspot.com:
Anyway, something is definitely fishy and the cartoonist is trying to hush up things. Why were the police contacted if this was “old strife”? Why does the artist claim the incident wasn’t related to the cartoons, when the girls where looking for “the daughter of the artist who derided our prophet”? How does he know the age of the children?
BTW, In Denmark you start at school when you’re 6, so girls in the 6th grade are more than 10-11 years (how does the artist know what grade the girls are in?)
Also read his analysis at the bottom of this post on his blog.
Mr. Anderson(In Danish) thinks otherwise. I wonder if he would like to comment now that he has read this post?
I could have sworn that Kimpolina(In Danish) commented on this, but now I can’t find where she said so. Comments?
Filtrat(In Danish) agrees with Mr. Anderson. In fact he is even harsher. Comments?
Uriasposten (In Danish) thinks he misunderstood. Comments?
Ulla Nørtoft Thomsen (In Danish) has yet to comment on the latest events. Comments?
Dansk-Svensk (In Danish) agrees with Mr. Anderson.
Modspil thinks Jens Rohde needs a new pair of Pig’s Ears…
So everybody, what do you think - because I would really like to know. I essentially agree with Dhimmi that, basically “Somebody is keeping us in the dark. What are we not mature enough to know ? Speak up !” And I also find this whole explanation that this was a “girl thing” less than satisfactory.
BTW I find it a bit annoying that no Danish blogs seem to have trackbacks enabled. Now I have to just link and hope they watch their logs…
Here comes the transcript of the interview Jens Rohde had today in the Nyhederne news programme. I didn’t translate the rest because it’s all about the anchor questioning Jens Rohde further about whether he has been an idiot - to paraphrase a bit - and about Jens Rohde saying how sorry he is.
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Transcript of TV-Avisen 19:00 approx. 6 minutes into the program.
Anchor: Good evening to you, Jens Rohde. The cartoonist from Jyllands-Posten whose daughter you, on the TV-Avisen news programme, told was sought out by 12 Moslem males, says you were lying. Were you?
Jens Rohde: I would like to say that I am the first to regret if I have misinterpreted the information I was given at the meeting in question - which the cartoonists themselves, or the cartoonists representative, asked me to have - and I also regret if I have misunderstood the agenda. But I didn’t doubt for a second that there was a strong appeal at that meeting for just one politician to not just defend their cartoons nut also to make clear to the public what threats they receive and how totally unacceptable their life has become - and that is because they aren’t themselves at liberty to speak for themselves. And I definitely felt that that was the intent of this meeting, which I attended at the request of Claus Seidel. I didn’t at any time wish to use this for base politics. One should keep in mind that I put myself at risk politically by defending the cartoonists.
Anchor: Just to remind everybody, Claus Seidel is the representative (chairman) of the cartoonists. Jens Rohde, you say you have misunderstod… How can one misinterprete from there being twelve males to there actually being a number of girls. What did you misunderstand?
Jens Rohde: I can only take note that the information that I was given, I must have misunderstood, because what I said seems to not be the case. But apart from that I don’t wish to enter into further dialogue, or shoutingmatch, with Claus Seidel about the exact wording at that meeting. But I would like to stress that I have at no point doubted that some of the horrendous things that Claus Seidel tells me the cartoonists have experienced ought in some way to be put on the public agenda in order to further the public understanding of the cartoonists int this debate because they are constantly villified by many parties.
“…some of the horrendous things that Claus Seidel tells me the cartoonists have experienced ought in some way to be put on the public agenda in order to further the public understanding…”
Exactly! And that is why Rhde is to be censured.
But — and a big however — there is something a bit odd about the 6-8 girls going to the school. That still does sound like intimidation and I would like to know what was going on. So all the more reason we have to be rigorous in our stories.
Comment by Raw Data — March 5, 2006 @ 1:58 am
Stalking Minuteman Kids at Their Schools
UPDATE Breaking News Agora has updated their article as new information comes in
Cartoonists Daughter Hunted by 12 Jihadists 12 Youngsters 6-8 Girls
Trackback by Committees of Correspondence — March 5, 2006 @ 6:21 am
“Perler for svin”
I guess freedom of speech is allowing people like Hell-pig to speak…urgh. I also think Agora’s take on Hell-pig’s comments is an impressive tour de force in patience and respect. Did I mention impressive? Thumbs up to the Administrator.
Comment by Eudaimonia — March 5, 2006 @ 7:30 am
Thanks for the update. I deleted the post on my site and will wait to see how this shakes out. Something still ain’t quite right though.
Comment by Hujonwi — March 5, 2006 @ 9:25 am
The Danish Debacle
The blog Agora posted a story wherein it was put forth that the daughter of one of the Danish cartoonists was targeted by twelve Moslem youths who showed up at her door. Obviously this was a distressing devlopment and we…
Trackback by The Rolling Barrage — March 5, 2006 @ 2:08 pm
If I had a 7 year old at school and she missed a day and the next day the teacher says to me: “Gee, it’s a good thing your daughter wasn’t here today because 6 to 8 Muslim girls came looking for ‘the daughter of the cartoonist who disparaged out prophet’ and you hear these were big girls, in grades 7 and 8…12 and 13 year olds, would you rest easier knowing that a pack of girls of that age had been looking to ‘get at’ your daughter.
I don’t think so. If the Muslims sent girls to do this dirty work, it’s only because they ‘use’ their youth as the shock troops. Look at the fires of France. If the underage kid gets caught, the police aren’t likely to hold him and in any case, you can go down to the police station and shout ‘racism’ till they let them go. It’s a ‘tactic’.
None of the three versions of the story I’ve heard leave me feeling any more relieved. 12 gangbanger girls in an LA gang can beat another half to death; 6-8 Muslims girls with their spite and anger stored so carefully as a weapon, could have inflicted a life-changing beating on a child.
No I don’t feel reassured at all learning it was 6 to 8 Muslims girls. And I’d like to know what their parents said to them when they found out what they’d done. Not much, I guess.
As sooon as they see we react to their manipulations, they change tack and try something new. They’re all Gollums! Threaten and thunder, then wheedle and whine till they threaten again.
Comment by foreign devil — March 5, 2006 @ 2:33 pm
Muslim Girls In Search Of Infidels … ?
I’m just a heathen mom from Texas, but I’ll tell you what. If I received a call from my kids’ school that 6 girls were trying to locate my daugher, I’d be troubled
Trackback by Red Hot Cuppa Politics — March 5, 2006 @ 3:26 pm
I agree with Foreign Devil.
There is still something odd about the story.
Comment by Raw Data — March 5, 2006 @ 3:37 pm
Eudaimonia said..I guess freedom of speech is allowing people like Hell-pig to speak…urgh.
First off it is Hellpig!.Second what type of person am I? You must mean the type that is sick and tired of the Cult of Islam with thier child raping false prophet followers,Murdering and raping,and kidnapping and lying to the world over and over and over again.And that I refuse to be a closed eyed Dhimmi such as yourself! Then yes I am that kinda person.And proud of it!
I can understand your not wanting to let me have freedom of speach.The Truth Hurts and it is my goal to awaken the world to Cult of Islam however I can.But there will be no hope for yourself because you are too worried about offending murderers and rapists.It will be people like myself who will preserve western culture from the mental disorder known as LIBERALISM.
prophet of doom
READ IT!
LEARN IT!
DESTROY IT!
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 4:50 pm
Hellpig,
No, I daresay that it will be people like you who will destroy western culture. For what is western culture if it is not liberal? You should understand the things you are throwing away:
1) That people are equal before the law
2) That people are protected from the state
3) That people have the right to be presumed innocent till proven guilty
Those are just the first three I could think of. There are many more. Western culture without liberalism is…. Dictatorship.
There are parts of modern liberalism that have grown to be rather tiresome. But essentially the parts of liberalism that are tiresome are all connected to cultural relativism. What we need is not a new führer. We need a liberal western culture that stands up for itself.
What we don’t need is a lot of pimply-faced youths who act before they think. It’s been tried. It was called the Hitler-Jugend. The liberal states of the world made short change of them. It’s being tried in the Palestinian Areas. Liberal states such as Israel will make short change of them.
The Rule of Law before the Law of the Rulers. The most liberal statement ever made.
If you can elaborate on what it is that you call Liberalism that you find so offensive, I will be happy to engage in debate. But don’t think that I will allow the comments section of my blog to be overtaken by people who can’t control their emotions. Yes, Eudaimonia is a bit snobbish about racists (believe me, I should know). But that doesn’t mean you have to be a brute and a bastard. It’s when you let that which you hate define yourself that you have irreparably lost.
Agora
Comment by Administrator — March 5, 2006 @ 5:14 pm
Liberalism is working just fine in the EU.LMAO
what next,they gonna allow the muslims to declare sharia,or stop the serving of pork in public schools,or proof reading student text books.Allowing the stalking of innocent little girls….Oh that’s right they already are!
4 of 5 islamonazi’s agree,liberals make great pets
the study of revenge
It’s kinda funny you won’t let me hijack this blog,but you will let the Cult of Islam hijack the world.
Can you say DHIMMITUDE,c’mon I think you can.
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 5:30 pm
“Fight and slay the Unbelievers wherever ye find them. Seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an, Sura 9:5
TROP
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 6:21 pm
Please, continue this line of argument. But the next time you get peeved at someone, don’t explode all your orifices onto my blog.
OK I wasn’t peeved I was just reponding,I see how you might have thought that,I shouldn’t used BOLD type,where I come from we use it as a separation from a quote,where as you see it as screaming.And I am always in control.And I am not a racist,the Cult of Islam isn’t a race,it’s multi-ethnic with all colors and breeds.
What do I believe in:
Borders
Language(although I do butcher it)
Culture
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 6:30 pm
And Dhimmitude isn’t debating with Moslems, your correct it is SUBMITTING to them!
“The mediaeval Quranic commentator Ibn Kathir justified the dhimma in terms of Sura 9:29 of the Qur’an [1]. The verse calls Muslims to fight against the People of the Book until they pay the jizya head tax and are humbled:
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold forbidden that which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 6:36 pm
Right. I’m sorry Hellpig.
I don’t agree with you but it wasn’t a nice way to say it. You’re entitled to speak your mind. I got angry because of all the anger your entries promoted. I don’t think rage is the way - and I better make that apply for my own conduct.
I also think you would feel differently if you had met nice real people who were from a muslim culture - and still actually - people. I have.
And yes. I bloody well know it. You shouldn’t let what you hate define you - ever. Only what you love.
Comment by Eudaimonia — March 5, 2006 @ 6:36 pm
Yes, that’s right. But what are we to do when we have killed all the Moslems? Do away with the Christians and Jews, of course:
Tadah! THE BIBLE SAYS THAT TOO!
You’re gay? You’re an infidel? Well, fuck you:
And don’t be a young widow, because then you’ll want to ****:
And long hair? Good for Women. BAAAD for men:
So now we’ve proven that Islam and Christianity are evil, why not just finish it in one big fireworks display? We got the nukes, you know…
Come on, give it a rest. Their religion is stupid and evil. WHERE’S the news? You seem like you are a bit surprised…
Agora
Comment by Administrator — March 5, 2006 @ 6:44 pm
No need to apologize(accepted)just spell my name correctly
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 6:47 pm
Hellpig,
I believe in those things too. But I also believe that we shouldn’t go around butchering people just because they are a bit nutters. That wouldn’t be fair. And besides, it would be horrible to be all alone in the world. Violence is what we use when we can’t debate anymore.
Agora
BTW this was in response to #14.
Comment by Administrator — March 5, 2006 @ 6:50 pm
ok
Comment by Eudaimonia — March 5, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
OK Agora,now your just going off tangent
you want to compare Islam to Christianity
ok lets start here,goto this site scroll down to the “The List” TROP
Then you link me to a christian list(This century please)
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 6:57 pm
Hey we have the 1.4 billion Chinese that want world domination.A bright future for us all I am sure.
This kind of hatred toward Islam,in my eyes will be until the Muslim community stands(speaks)out against the islamonazi’s publicly.Thier silence is a sign condolence.If they want to similate into western society,they need to clean house.Until then the world see’s them as one in the same
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 7:07 pm
Just because the world sees them all as the same, doesn’t mean we as individuals should. I don’t know the percentage of Moslems that are bad to the bone, but I do know the percentage of Moslems that will be dead if we kill them all. This whole cartoon business has helped highlight the things we should speak out against. And there’s a lot of that going on at the moment (speaking out).
I think we are more and more making it clear that dialogue with the West will have to be on our terms.
Agora
Comment by Administrator — March 5, 2006 @ 7:21 pm
My last posting:My definition somebody else’s words
Author Lawrence Auster:
The only way the West can be saved
It is among the evils, and perhaps is not the smallest, of democratical governments, that the people must feel, before they will see. When this happens, they are roused to action—hence it is that this form of government is so slow.—George Washington to Henry Knox, 8 March 1787.
The wages of sin is death, and the wages of long-standing indifference to the informing genius of a culture is—not just the death of the culture, but the pain and fright that attend death.—L. Brent Bozell, Mustard Seeds
I keep saying that the West must endure much more suffering and horror, many more surrenders and losses, before it will abandon its liberalism and start to defend itself from Islam—if it ever does. But no matter how many times I’ve said this, I realize I haven’t yet got to the core of the problem.
We must focus our attention on the fact that the key to this unfolding disaster is LIBERALISM. I am not speaking of liberalism in the classical sense, as constraints on the power of government, as free speech and free inquiry, as a single rule of law for all citizens, as individual rights. Nor I am not speaking of liberalism in the New Deal sense, as the use of government to correct imbalances in the economy. I am speaking of liberalism in its pure, modern sense, the sense in which it is most authoritative and active for us today—liberalism as non-discrimination, liberalism as non-judgmentalism, liberalism as the belief that individual rights and individual freedoms constitute the defining content of our society, the principle that rules all other principles. All of which comes down to the belief—for us, a sacred belief—that we must not define ourselves as a group, a collective whole, and therefore must not define any other group as fundamentally different from our group.
This is the belief that led the West to admit millions of unassimilable, hostile, and dangerous aliens into the West, and this is the belief that even now makes it impossible for Westerners to think critical thoughts about Islam as such, let alone to take effective action, or even imagine taking effective action, against it. In April 2001 I wrote an article called “America No Longer Exists,” by which I meant that America no longer sees itself as a nation, culture, and people, and therefore is unable to respond to obvious threats to itself as a nation, culture, and people. The same state of spiritual non-existence is much further advanced in Europe, especially Britain. Liberalism, by taking over the minds and hearts and souls of the Western peoples, has literally dissolved them as peoples. Having done so, it is now leading them to their political and civilizational destruction as well .
Now, what can turn this hideous situation around? There is only one thing that can do it: Westerners must feel the horror that liberalism has wrought. When they see their societies progressively taken over by Muslims, when they see Muslim sharia being implanted and enforced in more and more parts of their country, when they see Islam being taught in their children’s schools and promulgated in the mass media, when they see Muslim imams in the councils of state, when they hear the Muslims’ increasingly strident demands for every more Islamization, when they see Muslim razzias (a.k.a. riots and “random” murders) grow in intensity and audacity, when they see the government paralyzed even in the face of the most palpable crimes and threats, and when, most importantly, they feel the horror and despair and pain and humiliation of all this, and when, finally, they see that this situation was brought about by and is sustained by LIBERALISM, by the liberal belief that the acceptance of alien cultures is the highest virtue of society, then, only at that point, they will see that LIBERALISM, which they had imagined to be the fairest good, is the darkest and most disgusting evil, the smiling destroyer that has seduced them to their ruin. Then, and only then, will they be ready to repent of their liberalism and start defending themselves and their civilization.
Comment by HELLPIG — March 5, 2006 @ 7:22 pm
#24 Hellpig
I agree.
(I read that blog too. See here for an article I translated for Mr. Auster. You’re preaching to the choir. But some of your previous comments were not entirely in keeping with the pious choir-boy image. When I said I think parts of liberalism are actually good, I had that article in mind.
Agora
Comment by Administrator — March 5, 2006 @ 7:28 pm
Thank you for this update Agora and for shedding some additional light on this murky case. There have been similar incidents in the US (see the Joel Hinrichs UO case for starters, or the El-Al shooting at Los Angeles airport a few years ago) where I thought the media and authorities weren’t exactly forthcoming or honest about the events that transpired because they didn’t want to create “tensions” or “panic”.
Comment by Irene Adler — March 5, 2006 @ 8:34 pm
I first saw your post now. But no, I really haven’t changed my mind the least bit. Whether the whole incident was factual or not, is irrelevant insofar as I think he should resign even if it had been completely factual.
The crux of the matter is that a spokesperson for the government went out and broke the media blackout that has undoubtedly been imposed by PET, without consulting either the artists or PET, to whom the responsibility for their security has been entrusted. Whether it was a result of outrage over what happened or just plain stupidity, I can’t say. But if he was really so stupid, that he hadn’t noticed that no Danish media outlet has commented about the fate or the artist for the last 4-5 months, or that it would perhaps be a good idea to ask before going on national TV with details _beforehand_ I really don’t think he is fit to perform any duty involving large amounts of responsability and knowledge anyway.
Comment by mrandersson — March 6, 2006 @ 4:44 pm