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An angle that has not been covered much in this whole cartoon brouhaha is the question of those in Denmark wishing to go along with the Moslems. Here are some examples:

Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, ex-PM, Social Democrats (An affiliate of Soft Communism International) - about the cartoons:

They were stupid, respectless and arrogant. […] The message of that drawing is that a billion people are potential terrorists. That’s not irony. […] The Danish government ought to have explained about our freedom of speech sooner.

Uffe Ellemann Jensen, ex-Foreign Minister, Liberal Party. Great Cold Warrior, now a bit of a snob:

When one admits to having made so serious a mistake, which has untill now cost the lives of six people, one is not fit for the job. The Board of Directors cannot fire him due to the tense situation, but whoever struck the first spark must be the one to put out the fire. Jyllands-Posten has not been helpful in that area.

And in Berlingske Tidende, February 8, 2006

If we Danes wish to preserve dialogue with other cultures and religions – and even wish that they buy our milk products – then we cannot demand that they accept all our norms, least of all when they are exposed to disdain, mockery and sarcasm. If we insist that they have to tolerate all that, we are all firmly anchored in ‘the Danish village pond’ where everybody is convinced of her/his own infallibility and therefore not able to get on in a globalised world

Well, we only wanted to maintain our right of free speech, exsqueeze me…

Mette Winge, former member of PEN who left because they supported Jyllands-Posten:

Of course Satire is all well and good, but it shouldn’t be engaged in when one knows it is hurtful to some people. I really don’t think that’s proper. You could, of course that’s not very tasteful, compare this to the drawings made in the 30’s in Germany - satirical drawings by the way. It’s somewhat like that. Those shouldn’t have been…[…]

The Satanic Verses was a great wonderful work of art, he doesn’t.. doesn’t do things to be a pest, or for the media attention, he doesn’t, it was a most wonderful work of art. Great Literature. It’s of a different nature than those drawings ordered by Flemming Rose… Quality is the difference.[…]

Rose has been threatened on his life? oohh! [ED: She didn’t know…]

Later in the same interview:

Adam Holm: If these drawings had been published in Information or Politiken[ED: Leftist newspapers], would your reaction be the same?

Mette Winge: I would say, I would have seen them - it took a while before I saw them, I don’t read Jyllands-Posten, and you’ll have to accept my apology for that, but - it took, I didn’t see them till the whole debate had been going on for some time. ‘You need to see what this is all about’ [ED: Speaks to herself] ehrmm.. I could answer, it’s completely fictive - I can’t answer that. How in that situation, if I would have reacted to that, I might have. [ED:stops herself] No, I won’t answer that.

Eva Smith, Professor of Law, about where to draw the line (Jyllands-Posten October 21, 2005):

The line should be drawn at speech that only has as it’s purpose to mock other people or doesn’t have meaningful content - especially when it’s about something so crucial to people as their religion or country.

Then when she had been criticised for imputing upon Jyllands-Posten her characterisation of their motives, she defends herself, here from Jyllands-Posten October 26, 2005:

Jyllands-Posten knew that the drawings were extremely offensive to Moslems, and the only reason they published them was to provoke the Moslems.

And, as you see, she does it again. Doublewhammer. Jyllands-Posten are racist swine. I wonder why she bothers to debate with them then….

Khaled Karroum, literally an uppity immigrant in Jyllands-Posten October 12, 2005:

SAY YOU’RE SORRY

I am one of many protesting the article in JP September 30, 2005 about our Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). We cannot accept what JP has written. I think it is very bad for a person of the lower class to talk of our Prophet in that way. Therefore we Moslems demand an apology from Jyllands-Posten

"Say what?" You’re probably thinking - "lower class" - whatever is he implying? Uriasposten’s author later has a letter to the editor commenting on that:

Possible indictment for racism?

October 12 these pages held a letter to the editor by Khaled Karroum criticizing the Muhammed cartoons thus: "We cannot accept what JP has written. I think it is very bad for a person of the lower class to talk of our Prophet in that way." That Christians in the ideal Moslem community are "second-class citizens" (see Johannes Pedersen, "The Culture of Islam", 1928, p.48) is known, but isn’t Karroum forgetting that Muhammed didn’t culturally degradate non-Moslems till after he had taken over the secularly and religiously? The "lower class" remark by Karroum is sanctioned by the Quran, but nevertheless the most obvious violation of §266 [ED: Provision against racially discriminating remarks] of the penal code I have seen for a long time. JP has a daily circulation of 150000 papers and must then have at least a quarter of a million readers. Would it be acceptable for a (Christian) Dane to say the same of Moslems in Denmark without his being charged with racism?

Drude Dahlerup, former anti-EU agitator, now a Swedish wussie, writes in B.T. [via Expressen in Sweden] February 14:

In Sweden, the humanist [ED:LEFTIST, SHE MEANS BLOOD-RED] forcer are on the offensive. Unfortunately Denmark is in a different situation. There the limits of decency are broken openly.[…]

If the Swedish elite lets go of the humanitarian leash [ED:YES, CAN’T HAVE THE RABBLE RUNNING THE COUNTRY, CAN WE?] , as was done in Denmark, we’ll soon have The Swedish Democrats [Anti-Immigration party] in parliament. It must simply be a democratic duty to maintain that islamophobia is democratically as illegitimate as anti-semitism and other forms of attacks against groups.

And that concludes this review of the whiners.

Also see Michelle Malkin for a letter from a Dane talking about Uffe Elleman Jensen.

Yes, I know, we’ve been here before, but I just think this is something that needs to be stressed. From Politiken today, excerpts from an interview with Carsten Juste, Editor-in-Chief of J-P:

I simply do not know of any ads in Arab papers. This is not something sponsored by Jyllands-Posten

It is not the official text from Jyllands-Posten that’s been used. It sounds more like a butched AFP translation of a text that appeared in the Libyan La Tribune. The text we have authored is available in several languages at our web site.

The Reuters report attributes this to Carsten Juste:

Allow me in the name of Jyllands-Posten to apologize for what happened and declare my strong condemnation of any step that attacks specific religions, ethnic groups and peoples. I hope that with this I have removed the misunderstanding.

The only place the word apologize appears in the official text is here:

In our opinion, the 12 drawings were sober. They were not intended to be offensive, nor were they at variance with Danish law, but they have indisputably offended many Muslims for which we apologize.

(aka "We’re sorry you can’t take a joke, fuckheads)

Also see LGF, Haaretz

Couple of links to blogs that stille don’t carry the correct version of events:

The Politburo Diktat

The Omniblog

The Tension

The Dinocrat

The Infidel Bloggers’ Alliance

Manny Is Here

Bouquets Of Gray

The Free West

Turning to our daily dose of hypocrisy, this just in:

(About limits to free speech)

The reason I am viewed as provocative is that I show people things they don’t want to see. I think I am a good provocateur - I want to do something positive.

- Elisabeth Ohlson Wallin, speaking to Aftonbladet, May 30, 2002

But then…

There should be limits. We don’t have any prohibition against depicting Christ, but we must respect their limits.

 - Elisabeth Ohlson Wallin (of “Ecce Homo” fame) on P1 Morgon, February 2, 2006

"Hello? Hey, pot! It’s kettle on the phone - yeah, something about you being black."

So Christians don’t have limits when it comes to saying that Jesus was a backdoor-kind-of-man, that he took it up the chute?

The difference here is… The Swedish Embassy still stands. Dhimmi. Backdoor socialist. Hypocrite.

 

 

Hat tip: Stockholm Spectator (THE ressource for Swedish news) [Via: Uriasposten, Dansk-Svensk]

Whine of the day by a professor no less:

By the same token, Muslims should also be deeply concerned because, by their reaction to the events, Islam-bashers (and even some so-called Muslim governments) now see that much of the Islamic world suffers from a huge complex about its role in history; they are craftily using this sensitivity to provoke Muslims to commit senseless acts of violence that do not uphold or further the banner of Islam and the values that the Prophet Muhammad sought to inculcate in all of us. It is indeed frightening that in many ways both sides are acting unthinkingly.

I guess this one is a proponent of the living constitution — you Americans can be sure he will be nominated for the SC when the she-male Clinton gets into power.

Vote Republican, you fools. It’s what Danes would do.

As I posted about earlier here, J-P has not published their "we’re sorry you’re stupid" apology in the Saudi Media. I learn from Pantry Dawg that there was a similar case recently about an alleged change to the Norwegian penal code outlawing blasphemy. This was rebutted here. Somebody ought to keep tabs on these bastards. You know, just to keep the running score. How many lies are they willing to spew to save their hides from the Arab street (uhhh *shudders*)?

Of course, we would have to keep it to the big ones. Smallies don’t count. What’s the number after dingdongdillion?

PS. I seem to remember something about it not actually being true that Clinton wanted to behead the kufr cartoonists. This was reported by the Pakistani Media, I think?